An Interview with Marios Sophia Prodromou on Names, Metaphor, Cyprus, Greek Heritage, Genius, Religion, Mysticism, and More (Part One)
Author(s): Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Publication (Outlet/Website): In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal
Publication Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 2020/07/01
Abstract
Marios Sophia Prodromou is a member of the World Genius Directory. He discusses: the “Rat King”; other names; Caelestis; Spade; Draco; preferred name; meanings; the meaning of “Rat” and “King” in “Rat King”; feel hated by “most people”; other animal examples than a rat; the queens; a queen; the best minds; one name; degree and manner of different; the more explicit reference to lightness and darkness; the meaning of light; the origin and meaning of the name Marios Sophia Prodromou; John the Baptist; the Virgin Mary; the forms of parenting; family history and development as a Cypriot; the values of Scottish society; the values of Cypriot society; modern Scottish and Cypriot society; being a Cypriot; Turkey; Turkish mistakes; innocents; Erdogan’s attempt at recreation or reconsolidation of the (Neo-)Ottoman Empire through a Turkish expansionism; Greece; Greek mistakes; the Greeks obsessed with money; My Big Fat Greek Wedding; 6-sigma, or even 5-sigma, people within the high-IQ community; being introverted; no desire to interact with other high-range people, “really”; the discovery of giftedness; some other tests; the societal view of giftedness in Cyprus; other media opportunities; programs on television; “Prince Show”; the purpose; “With Love Christina”; nervous in both appearances; desire or want to be a somebody rather than a “nobody”; knowledge and Sophia; Greeks with an obsession on money; Sophia and knowledge; a real genius; a faux genius; more real geniuses or faux geniuses; people who fake striving to be a nobody while being a somebody as their main goal; some work pursuits; mental coaching; pressure for pupils; how much faster for most of the pupils; some of the basic strategies; some of the intermediate strategies; common, uncommon, and rare personality styles of the children; intellectual issues; public and private intellectuals; some educational attainments; social philosophy; political philosophy; economic philosophy; favourite philosopher; religious/non-religious philosophy; being balanced; kind of God; the argument for this God; the evidence for this God; most people’s hearts; fairness; justice; a single term, even a neologism, covering the idea of fairness and justice in unison; a supernatural order, a natural order, or both; definition of paranormal, supernatural, metaphysical, and natural, material, and physical in this context; the precise meaning of the idea of a paranormal “experience”; a paranormal experience; ethical philosophy; worldview; the British background influence the personal perception of the Cypriot society; inspiring kids; “tough”; alone; a member of “World Genius Directory, Prometheus, Mensa International, Epimetheus, GENIUS Umbrella Organization, sPIqr, Vertex, Grand IQ Society, Tetra, GOTHIQ, LEVIATHAN 160, Triple Nine Society, HELLIQ, The Glia Society, UBERIQ, TENIQ and many others”; societies; most reliable in providing a social and intellectual space over a long period of time for members; one spent the most time interacting with if at all; becoming a person of a value versus becoming a person of success; value less fungible than money in some fundamental sense; Madonna right, after all, but for everyone rather than just “girls”; success; value; common notions of success amongst the Greeks other than making lots and lots of money; kind of values must one have to make the “value” of “making an impact on your community”; esotericism and symbology; the Dudeist philosophy; Dudeism; open-minded; to be “everywhere”; the public alternative religious and philosophical groups; some characteristics of the secret groups without precise details of them; work or worked as a postal officer; working on some intellectual problem; the parts that are non-secretive and esoteric; kind of self-improvement; a small capacity of the brain; more men in the high-IQ societies than the women; the smartest person in history; Tesla; some of the smartest people alive now; Musk; Gates; Trump; religion and theology; faith; “ancient and secret esoteric knowledge”; kinds of symbols; the main symbols; the truth; thoughts on atheism; thoughts on theism; thoughts on agnosticism; mainly learned from purported secret esoteric knowledge; some hints or indications as to the purpose of life; changes in life; why pursue this course in life; how we know it’s ancient knowledge; those who simply cannot ‘take your word for it’; the unseen and rather a hallucination; unsatisfying and akin to a non-answer; Greek Orthodox Church; more wrong or more rights as a theology; forced and inertia-based belief in Greek Orthodox Christianity; their image of the nature of world, human beings, and the relations of human beings to one another and the world; creativity; intelligence; intuition; intuition truly a form of intelligence or more a subjectively formalized, experientially developed sensibility about life and its meanderings; genius; purpose of having ancient esoteric secret knowledge in the first place; idea as to authorship of the inscription; Mount Athos; “ancient knowledge”; the freemasons; the organization make most of them pawns; The Church of Satan, First Satanic Church, The Satanic Temple, Luciferianism, Order of Nine Angles, or the Temple of Set; The Church of Satan; First Satanic Church; The Satanic Temple; Luciferianism; Order of Nine Angles; the Temple of Set; literal or metaphorical (or both) angels and demons; Anton LaVey; his work been modified for better or for worse; Aleister Crowley or his self-claimed follower Timothy Leary; Anton LaVey; the nature of good and evil; thoughts on those who claim this is moral relativism; science and philosophy; ‘fact’; “idea”; poor decisions; differentiate intuition from other internal ‘talks’; the Gospel of John alongside of the Synoptic Gospels; a holy text; a particular religious text coming from the ancient world; Margaret Atwood; intuition; coming to terms with the world; words of advice or guidance to younger members of the profoundly gifted cohort who could use some guidance; For those parents with a profoundly gifted child; difficulties for some members of the profoundly gifted community; 1-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 2-sigma intelligence; -sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 3-sigma intelligence; 3-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 4-sigma intelligence; -sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 5-sigma intelligence; 5-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 6-sigma intelligence; societies emphasizing excellence more than equity; some of the oldest secret societies; the secret societies and the alternative theistic groups like the freemasons; things of annoyance; more at ease, at peace, with the world; ever plan to move away from Greece-Cyprus-Turkey area back to the United Kingdom or some other place; lifework; the general life trajectory; to end up; metaphysics; metaphysics from Dudeism; the most creative person in history; the best writer in history; the typical societal expectations of Greek heritage women; the typical societal expectations of Greek heritage men; and some cultural nuances largely known only to the Greeks about the ways in which men and women, old and young, blue-collar and white-collar, and so on, exist in Greek society, in Cypriot society, and in the diaspora with Greek heritage.
Keywords: Caelestis, Cyprus, dark, Draco, genius, Greek, heritage, light, Marios Sophia Prodromou, names, religion, Spade.
An Interview with Marios Sophia Prodromou on Names, Metaphor, Cyprus, Greek Heritage, Genius, Religion, Mysticism, and More (Part One)[1],[2]*
*Please see the footnotes, bibliography, and citation style listing after the interview.*
1. Scott Douglas Jacobsen: You’re amongst the highest range high-scorers in the niche community of alternative intelligence test takers. First things first, why the “Rat King”?
Marios Sophia Prodromou: I go by many names. There can’t be light without darkness.
2. Jacobsen: What other names?
Prodromou: Caelestis, Spade and Draco to name a few.
3. Jacobsen: What does Caelestis mean in this context? Why select it, or have it endowed to you?
Prodromou: I like to think of myself as celestial or out of this world.
4. Jacobsen: What does Spade mean in this context? Why select it, or have it endowed to you?
Prodromou: I like to dig for knowledge. The Ace of Spades by Motorhead is also one of my favourite songs.
5. Jacobsen: What does Draco mean in this context? Why select it, or have it endowed to you?
Prodromou: Dragon.
6. Jacobsen: Any preferred name out of the many?
Prodromou: Draco Caelestis or celestrial dragon.
7. Jacobsen: What interrelates these meanings (other than the obvious idea of the person, you)?
Prodromou: My knowledge of reality.
8. Jacobsen: What is the meaning of “Rat” and “King” in “Rat King”?
Prodromou: Most people hate rats but they have their purpose. It is better to be a king among rats rather than a peasant among men.
9. Jacobsen: Do you feel hated by “most people”? If so, why? If not, why not?
Prodromou: I do. There is a lot of jealousy in the world and I’m not your ordinary social butterfly.
10. Jacobsen: Any other animal examples than a rat – perhaps more palatable to the imagination?
Prodromou: Dragon, lion and Eagle.
11. Jacobsen: What about the queens?
Prodromou: A queen is just as important as a king.
12. Jacobsen: Do you have a queen?
Prodromou: Sophia.
13. Jacobsen: Do you consider the best minds among the rats/people the “most hated,” and for good reason? Is this a variation on better to reign in hell than serve in heaven?
Prodromou: My birthday this year coincided with the beginning of the year of the rat. Great year it’s been so far. I can’t get Horned rats out of my mind.
14. Jacobsen: Why not simply go by one name?
Prodromou: I strive to be different.
15. Jacobsen: How much, and in what way? Why that degree and manner of different?
Prodromou: If you are one of the many you will always be average. As different ad it gets.
16. Jacobsen: What is the more explicit reference to lightness and darkness? Usually, this comes with some philosophical or theological position on life. Is this the intended meaning?
Prodromou: Lux in tenebris. A more detailed version is found in the Gospel of John. The light shines in the darkness and the darkness cannot comprehend it. I like to be significant but also go about unnoticed.
17. Jacobsen: What about tenebris in lux? What is the meaning of light here rather than a reference? Is this in reference to the light of God and the darkness of the prime fallen angel, prime evil?
Prodromou: Evil depends on intention. A knife can cut your food or can kill somebody. Again I believe in dualism and that evil and good are just different poles of the same coin
18. Jacobsen: What is the origin and meaning of the name Marios Sophia Prodromou?
Prodromou: My grandmother was called Maria and I was also named in honor of the Virgin Mary. My mother had trouble giving birth and prayed to the Virgin Mary to help her conceive. Prodromou is the family name and means forerunner after John the Baptist or Prodromos in Greek.
19. Jacobsen: In this context, what does John the Baptist mean to you, personally?
Prodromou: I like his way of life. Being a loner. He had a bigger role than what he is credited. Just ask the Knights Templars.
20. Jacobsen: Also, what does the Virgin Mary mean to you, personally?
Prodromou: The divine feminine.
21. Jacobsen: What were the forms of parenting towards you, in the context of being rather special child in rarity, in cognition and in odds of conception for your mother?
Prodromou: I was given my space and a lot of love.
23. Jacobsen: What is family history and development as a Cypriot?
Prodromou: Both parents are Cypriots although I was born in Scotland.
24. Jacobsen: What are the values of Scottish society?
Prodromou: Respect for their history. They know where they came from.
25. Jacobsen: How do these mix with the values of Cypriot society if at all?
Prodromou: Cypriots care more about the present than the past.
26. Jacobsen: Are modern Scottish and Cypriot society more at odds or at parallels?
Prodromou: They are very different.
27. Jacobsen: What does being a Cypriot do for personal social and political views regarding Greece, Cyprus, and Turkey?
Prodromou: Both Turkey and Greece have made mistakes. I am a Greek Cypriot but am always open-minded when it comes to politics.
28. Jacobsen: What mistakes has Turkey made?
Prodromou: They are obsessed with world dominance. Killed many innocent people in their endeavors.
29. Jacobsen: How will Turkish mistakes come to haunt them?
Prodromou: Karma is a bitch not just for Turkey but for everybody.
30. Jacobsen: How many innocents are estimated?
Prodromou: I’d rather not put a number to it.
31. Jacobsen: Is this Erdogan’s attempt at recreation or reconsolidation of the (Neo-)Ottoman Empire through a Turkish expansionism?
Prodromou: Not only Eedogan’s but those that went before him and those that will come after him.
32. Jacobsen: What mistakes has Greece made?
Prodromou: Greeks are obsessed with money. The result is selling out their country. The ministry of defence sold a submarine owned by his military.
33. Jacobsen: How will the Greek mistakes come back to bite them in the behind more?
Prodromou: Already the economy is a mess.
34. Jacobsen: Have the Greeks always been obsessed with money?
Prodromou: Not always. But when they were given a little sugar they developed a sweet tooth.
35. Jacobsen: How accurate is My Big Fat Greek Wedding, the movie, to Greek culture, especially in times of courting and marriage and potential in-law interactions?
Prodromou: It is quite accurate. Parents can become obsessed with their kids. In Scotland they leave the nest at 18 in Greece ans Cyprus they can stay forever. Well at least till marriage.
36. Jacobsen: Have you ever met or interacted with many other 6-sigma, or even 5-sigma, people within the high-IQ community? If so, what was the experience? If not, other than statistical rarity, why not?
Prodromou: I can’t say that I have. They are hard to find and I am highly introverted.
37. Jacobsen: Why so introverted?
Prodromou: I was an only child. I learnt to be my best friend.
38. Jacobsen: Would you like to interact with them?
Prodromou: Not really. I’m a loner.
39. Jacobsen: How was the discovery of giftedness? What is important to bear in mind about alternative intelligence tests? What alternative intelligence tests/non-mainstream tests seem reliable and valid to you?
Prodromou: I scored 98/100 on the old Millers Analogy Test that I used to matriculate into the College of New Jersey Master of Education program
40. Jacobsen: What have been some other tests? What are the implied scores and standard deviations of said scores? What have been the range of the scores from the lowest to the highest?
Prodromou: My highest was 190+ on MACH. I have scored around 170 on tests by Iacovos Koukas. It all depends on how much effort I put into the test. I did my 170 in 2 hours where I took 6 months to answer the MACH.
41. Jacobsen: What is the societal view of giftedness in Cyprus?
Prodromou: I’ve been twice on national TV but I remain an unknown nobody.
42. Jacobsen: Have there been other media opportunities, which you’ve turned down?
Prodromou: Many. I don’t go there for the fame.
43. Jacobsen: What programs on television? Why agree to appear on those programs?
Prodromou: It helps me gain the trust of the community and be able to help their kids as a mental coach. I went to two well known programs on Cypriot TV. The clips are on my YouTube channel.
44. Jacobsen: On the “Prince Show,” is kissing a common Greek greeting between people – on either or both cheeks? In North America, this would be seen as odd between men. What was the reason for the invitation to the show? What was the main discussion topic? What were some responses to the show? Did you like the appearance?
Prodromou: I won the WGD Genius of the Year for Europe in 2017. The WGD made a press release and I got invited.
45. Jacobsen: Was part of the purpose to garner the trust of the public?
Prodromou: I don’t like to advertise myself and the public believes anything the media tells them and the public adores celebrities so it was a win-win situation for me.
46. Jacobsen: On the “With Love Christina,” what was the reason for the invitation to the show? What was the main discussion topic? What were some responses to the show? Did you like the appearance?
Prodromou: Again winning the WGD Award.
47. Jacobsen: You seemed nervous in both appearances. Is this an accurate observation? If so, why? If not, why not?
Prodromou: I don’t socialize much. I was out of my water.
48. Jacobsen: Do you desire or want to be a somebody rather than a “nobody”?
Prodromou: I’d rather be a nobody. In this earth to be a somebody you need to be a celebrity or have lots of money. I’d rather pass. Knowledge and Sophia for me is more important than money.
49. Jacobsen: Why are knowledge and Sophia sufficient for you?
Prodromou: That is why we are here. To learn and improve.
50. Jacobsen: Why would most Greeks with an obsession on money choose money rather than their own notions of “knowledge and Sophia”?
Prodromou: They have not studied the occult like me. When you look into the abyss you find that it stares right back at you.
51. Jacobsen: What or who is Sophia (other than a middle name)?
Prodromou: The Goddess of wisdom. The most important figure for Gnostic Christians.
52. Jacobsen: What kind of knowledge most appeals to personal sensibilities?
Prodromou: As long as it resonates with my intuition. I find it appealing.
53. Jacobsen: What makes a real genius?
Prodromou: Finding the unknown.
54. Jacobsen: What makes a faux genius?
Prodromou: A good actor like Trump.
55. Jacobsen: Are there more real geniuses or faux geniuses?
Prodromou: Faux Geniuses for sure.
56. Jacobsen: What do you make of people who fake striving to be a nobody while being a somebody as their main goal to promote themselves or some idea rather than simply being a nobody, liking it, and preferring being a nobody?
Prodromou: We are all actors and the world is our stage. We have our plays and exits.
57. Jacobsen: What have been some work pursuits for you?
Prodromou: My passion is helping kids excel in sports through mental coaching.
58. Jacobsen: What is “mental coaching”? What have been the specialities in the forms of mental coaching for you? How do you go about imparting these mental skills to mentees?
Prodromou: Helping the child make faster and better decisions under pressure. I have come up with several strategies depending on the learning style and personality of the child. One size does not fit all.
59. Jacobsen: What kind of pressure?
Prodromou: Playing in a competitive environment in front of people. Even the desire of pleasing our parents or coaches results in pressure.
60. Jacobsen: Fast is time-dependent, therefore relative. How much faster for most of the pupils?
Prodromou: One second too early and you are offside. One second too late and you missed your chance. Just as fast as is needed to made a difference.
61. Jacobsen: What are some of the basic strategies?
Prodromou: Improving focus and concentration. Teaching the kids how to pick up information and how to analyze it to make better decisions.
62. Jacobsen: What are some of the intermediate strategies?
Prodromou: Nothing is set in stone. What works for John doesn’t work for Charlie.
63. Jacobsen: What are the common, uncommon, and rare personality styles of the children?
Prodromou: Every kid is different. That is the beauty of this world.
64. Jacobsen: What intellectual issues impress you?
Prodromou: I am not easily impressed as only a small capacity of one’s brain is used. I believe that there is more to the world than meets the eye. We only see a tiny fraction of the spectrum after all.
65. Jacobsen: Which public and private intellectuals impress you?
Prodromou: I’m not easily impressed.
66. Jacobsen: What have been some educational attainments for you?
Prodromou: I graduated summa cum laude from the University of Indianapolis and finished the Master in Education program of the College of New Jersey with a perfect 4.00 GPA.
67. Jacobsen: What social philosophy makes the most sense to you?
Prodromou: “The alienation of man thus appeared as the fundamental evil of capitalist society.” – Karl Marx
68. Jacobsen: What political philosophy makes the most sense to you?
Prodromou: Equal rights and opportunities for all men and women.
69. Jacobsen: What economic philosophy makes the most sense to you?
Prodromou: “Accumulation of wealth at one pole is at the same time accumulation of misery, agony of toil, slavery, ignorance, brutality, mental degradation at the opposite pole.” -Karl Marx
70. Jacobsen: Who is a favourite philosopher for you? I am sensing Marx or potentially Marx for some reason.
Prodromou: You are correct.
71. Jacobsen: What religious/non-religious philosophy makes the most sense to you?
Prodromou: I believe in God but I also believe that there can be no light without darkness. It is not about choosing sides. It is about finding balance.
72. Jacobsen: What is being balanced here? What delineates the light from the dark in personalities and life stances? For what it’s worth, I am reminded of the Grey Jedi.
Prodromou: You won’t see a bear turn the other cheek of her cubs are in danger.
73. Jacobsen: What kind of God makes the most sense to you?
Prodromou: A God that is fair and just. That judges a person’s heart and his intentions rather than his accomplishments.
74.Jacobsen: What is the argument for this God?
Prodromou: Synchronicity.
75. Jacobsen: What is the evidence for this God?
Prodromou: I find that I will always get to where I need to be through a random sequence of events in my life.
76. Jacobsen: What is in most people’s hearts?
Prodromou: Blood.
77. Jacobsen: What is fairness?
Prodromou: Having the same opportunities as everybody else.
78. Jacobsen: What is justice?
Prodromou: If you do somebody wrong that you also will be wronged.
79. Jacobsen: Is there a single term, even a neologism, covering the idea of fairness and justice in unison?
Prodromou: I’m not keen on unions.
80. Jacobsen: Do you believe in a supernatural order, a natural order, or both? Why?
Prodromou: I have had paranormal experiences but let’s leave it at that.
81. Jacobsen: As a detective, one must detect, investigate, and/or inquire – have to ask. What is the definition of paranormal, supernatural, metaphysical, and natural, material, and physical in this context?
Prodromou: Some things need to be seen. They cannot be described. For those that know no explanation is necessary. For those that don’t no explanation is possible.
82. Jacobsen: What is the precise meaning of the idea of a paranormal “experience” within the above-mentioned definition?
Prodromou: I refer you to the above.
83. Jacobsen: Why does this experience within giving the precise experience, in fact, match the above-mentioned definitions and contextualizations of a paranormal experience rather than simply a natural and normal experience, or event?
Prodromou: I am still experiencing the effects up to this day.
84. Jacobsen: What ethical philosophy makes the most sense to you?
Prodromou: What is chaos for the fly is dinner time for the spider.
85. Jacobsen: What worldview brings these together into a neat little package for you?
Prodromou: Thinking outside the box. Nothing is set in stone.
86. Jacobsen: How does the British background influence the personal perception of the Cypriot society?
Prodromou: Small is not always better.
87. Jacobsen: Why is inspiring kids important for you?
Prodromou: I had a tough childhood and know what it feels like to be alone in the world.
88. Jacobsen: How was it “tough”?
Prodromou: Parents were away most of the time and we had little money. I was also bullied in school.
89. Jacobsen: How did you feel alone? How did your mother cope knowing her rare child was alone and living a tough life?
Prodromou: She did the best that she could. I wouldn’t change her for any other mother.
90. Jacobsen: You are a member of “World Genius Directory, Prometheus, Mensa International, Epimetheus, GENIUS Umbrella Organization, sPIqr, Vertex, Grand IQ Society, Tetra, GOTHIQ, LEVIATHAN 160, Triple Nine Society, HELLIQ, The Glia Society, UBERIQ, TENIQ and many others.”
Prodromou: IQ is just a number but it looks good on my resume. It helps me as a mental coach as the parents are more willing to recruit me in order to help their kids.
91. Jacobsen: What societies seem the most reliable in providing a social and intellectual space over a long period of time for members?
Prodromou: Difficult to answer. I mostly join for the card and not the interaction.
92. Jacobsen: What one have you spent the most time interacting with if at all? Why that one?
Prodromou: WGD. I won the award and was their ambassador for a whole year.
93. Jacobsen: What is meant by becoming a person of a value versus becoming a person of success?
Prodromou: Success for many is having lots of money or social status. A person of value however is important to his community for his knowledge and not for his money.
94. Jacobsen: Does this make value less fungible than money in some fundamental sense?
Prodromou: Only because most people are obsessed with money and not the pursuit of knowledge. In their defence it is a material world after all isn’t it?
95. Jacobsen: Was Madonna right, after all, but for everyone rather than just “girls”?
Prodromou: No money no honey.
96. Jacobsen: Following from the previous question, what defines success? What defines value?
Prodromou: Success is different for many people. Value however is making an impact on your community.
97. Jacobsen: What are common notions of success amongst the Greeks other than making lots and lots of money?
Prodromou: Having a good job. Social status.
98. Jacobsen: What kind of values must one have to make the “value” of “making an impact on your community”? How have you strived to be valuable to community in this manner? Is the sense of “community” local or global here, or simply a
Prodromou: Doing the best for the person that you are dealing with and not for you.
99. Jacobsen: An inference rather than a confirmation. You seem to like esotericism and symbology, including highly symmetrical and complex creations. If so, why? If not, why the complicated symbol systems on social media for you?
Prodromou: A lot of ancient and secret esoteric knowledge has been preserved in symbols. Language has changed and is different for everybody but symbols remain the same.
100. Jacobsen: Why take part in the Dudeist philosophy, as I am, full disclosure, a member too?
Prodromou: I like to be everywhere and am open-minded.
101. Jacobsen: For those who do not know, what is Dudeism?
Prodromou: The Tao.
102. Jacobsen: How open-minded?
Prodromou: As much as it takes for my brain to fall out of my head.
103. Jacobsen: What other groups have you joined to be “everywhere”?
Prodromou: I can’t mention them as they are secret.
104. Jacobsen: Any of those who aren’t secret, like the public alternative religious and philosophical groups, e.g., Dudeism?
Prodromou: I’m an Associate member of the American Psychological Association.
105. Jacobsen: What are some characteristics of the secret groups without precise details of them – other than being “secret”?
Prodromou: They find you. You don’t find them.
106. Jacobsen: You work or worked as a postal officer. Why?
Prodromou: The best and most stable job in Cyprus is as a civil servant. It also gives you lots of free hours in the afternoons to pursue other goals and interests.
107. Jacobsen: I am reminded of old Bill Sidis working at ‘menial’ jobs while writing works on the history of the Americas, etc. Are you writing anything or working on some intellectual problem at this time?
Prodromou: I’m working on self improvement and my esoteric world through the application of hidden knowledge. You can add “mystery man” to the titles that I go under.
108. Jacobsen: Of the parts that are non-secretive and esoteric, what is the esoteric part? Is that Austin “Danger” Powers, man of mystery?
Prodromou: It is the part that “changes” you the most.
109. Jacobsen: What kind of self-improvement?
Prodromou: Receiving an upgrade. Making a better version of you.
110. Jacobsen: What do you mean only a small capacity of the brain is used? Isn’t this an old and outmoded, i.e., non-empirical, stance akin to the 10% myth?
Prodromou: Only for those that have a large ego. It makes them feel better and that they are intelligent. Most of our thoughts are not even our own.
111. Jacobsen: Why are more men in the high-IQ societies than the women?
Prodromou: I have the same question. Probably women have other interests as I don’t think it is about intelligence.
112. Jacobsen: Who do you consider the smartest person in history?
Prodromou: Tesla.
113. Jacobsen: Why?
Prodromou: He was a loner just like me. A pig of his work is not even known to the general population.
114. Jacobsen: Who do you consider some of the smartest people alive now?
Prodromou: Musk and Gates and even Trump.
115. Jacobsen: Why Musk?
Prodromou: He has a nice girlfriend.
116. Jacobsen: Why Gates?
Prodromou: He started off with nothing and made billions through his knowledge.
117. Jacobsen: Why “even Trump”?
Prodromou: He is a good actor.
118. Jacobsen: What defines religion and theology?
Prodromou: A strong belief in something and faith in the unknown.
119. Jacobsen: What differentiates the former, a “strong belief,” from a conviction? Is faith a good or a bad thing if the thing is unknown or assumed as such? Many things have been believed on faith without evidence and caused a great many tragedies, and the ones/events/happenings/outcomes in which faith lead to good things; better and more evidenced reasons exist and highly probably existed.
Prodromou: I should have been dead in two car crashes that I have had. Faith is knowing that I’m still here for a reason. I guess it all depends on the person and his experiences.
120. Jacobsen: What is “ancient and secret esoteric knowledge”?
Prodromou: It wouldn’t be a secret if I told you now would it?
121. Jacobsen: What kinds of symbols preserve them?
Prodromou: Many symbols in the occult mainly. Especially those created by John Dee and Aleister Crowley.
122. Jacobsen: What are the main symbols? What are the main interpretations of them?
Prodromou: Again what I know cannot be discussed in public. It is up to every individual to seek the truth if he desires.
123. Jacobsen: Is the truth atheism or theism, or some other category?
Prodromou: The truth is still the truth even if nobody believes it. A lie is still a lie even if everybody believes it.
124. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on atheism?
Prodromou: Everybody has free will to believe or not. I respect their free will not to believe just as long as they respect my right to believe.
125. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on theism?
Prodromou: Same as above.
126. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on agnosticism?
Prodromou: Same as above.
127. Jacobsen: What have you mainly learned from purported secret esoteric knowledge?
Prodromou: That there is a purpose to life and not what everybody thinks it is. I have learnt why we are here.
128. Jacobsen: What are some hints or indications as to the purpose of life?
Prodromou: Improving your inner world and DNA.
129. Jacobsen: What changes in life have come from this for you?
Prodromou: I have a whole new heart.
130. Jacobsen: Why did you pursue this course in life rather than others?
Prodromou: I believe everything else is a distraction.
131. Jacobsen: How do we know it’s ancient knowledge?
Prodromou: I have applied it and have seen the unseen. But you have to take my word for it as hard as that seems.
132. Jacobsen: Does this not seem like a skirting, or circumnavigating the issue entirely, similar to the promise of unlikely rewards of 72 virgins after death for martyrs in some interpretations of Islamic scriptures – ‘just believe me as you’ll get it after you die, take my word for it’? This sort of argument from authority. What of those who simply cannot ‘take your word for it’ – no matter how hard it may seem – and require more robust responses, e.g., like detectives?
Prodromou: Even if I told you fee would believe. And even those that do believe won’t know how or what to do.
133. Jacobsen: What if what you saw was not the unseen and rather a hallucination or a mere chance coincidence rather than a real experience in true transaction with the external world – between the self and the natural world?
Prodromou: Again, I’m still experiencing the effects of my experience to this day.
134. Jacobsen: How do we know it’s esoteric and secret rather than simply esoteric knowledge?
Prodromou: What I have seen I doubt many people have seen.
135. Jacobsen: Does this seem unsatisfying and akin to a non-answer, almost a faux mysticism so as to skirt real explanation through properly verifiable and more reliable means than fallible human experience?
Prodromou: Some things are better left unsaid.
136. Jacobsen: Most Greeks are formal religious, as in Greek Orthodox Church. Why?
Prodromou: That is what they are brought up to believe.
137. Jacobsen: Is it correct or incorrect as a system of thought, or more wrong or more rights as a theology?
Prodromou: Who am I to judge?
138. Jacobsen: How could this enforced and inertia-based belief in Greek Orthodox Christianity change in the future to a different faith or no faith at all?
Prodromou: I doubt it will change. Religion is strong in Greece and Cyprus and the church has a big role in Society and lots of money and property. The Head of the church can even influence the Government.
139. Jacobsen: Following from the previous question, how does this color their image of the nature of world, human beings, and the relations of human beings to one another and the world?
Prodromou: Cultural bias is created that doesn’t allow much room to the individual to explore other ideas and values.
140. Jacobsen: What is creativity?
Prodromou: Tapping into your own intuition to come up with something original.
141. Jacobsen: What is intelligence?
Prodromou: Intuition for me is the highest intelligence.
142. Jacobsen: Why intuition?
Prodromou: That is where the magic happens.
143. Jacobsen: Is intuition truly a form of intelligence or more a subjectively formalized, experientially developed sensibility about life and its meanderings?
Prodromou: It is the highest intelligence.
144. Jacobsen: What is genius?
Prodromou: Finding X.
145. Jacobsen: What is purpose of having ancient esoteric secret knowledge in the first place?
Prodromou: “If you die before you die you won’t die when you die.” An ancient inscription written at Mount Athos.
146. Jacobsen: Any idea as to authorship of the inscription?
Prodromou: No idea.
147. Jacobsen: Why is Mount Athos significant to the Greeks and to Eastern Orthodox monasticism?
Prodromou: It is their holy place. Everybody that is Greek has gone their or will eventually go there at least once in their life time.
148. Jacobsen: Is “ancient knowledge” good or bad? With current advancements, it sounds like “Ancient Grains” or some such thing.
Prodromou: That is the plan. To keep you away from the old. Who says new is better?
149. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on the freemasons in that regard – the society with secrets rather than a secret society?
Prodromou: I respect them although most are pawns and only a handful of those at the highest degrees reach the truth.
150. Jacobsen: Why does the organization make most of them pawns?
Prodromou: To do their dirty work.
151. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on different Satanist or associated groups including The Church of Satan, First Satanic Church, The Satanic Temple, Luciferianism, Order of Nine Angles, or the Temple of Set?
Prodromou: I respect them as well; although, it is not good to be so fanatic. It does not leave room to explore other paths. Satan was once an angel after all.
152. Jacobsen: Any specific reflections on The Church of Satan?
Prodromou: It is what it is.
153. Jacobsen: Any specific reflections on First Satanic Church?
Prodromou: It is what it is.
154. Jacobsen: Any specific reflections on The Satanic Temple?
Prodromou: It is what it is.
155. Jacobsen: Any specific reflections on Luciferianism?
Prodromou: It is what it is.
156. Jacobsen: Any specific reflections on Order of Nine Angles?
Prodromou: It is what it is.
157. Jacobsen: Any specific reflections on the Temple of Set?
Prodromou: It is what it is.
158. Jacobsen: Do you believe in literal or metaphorical (or both) angels and demons? If so, how so? If not, why not?
Prodromou: Maybe they work together and are two parts of the same team.
159. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on Anton LaVey?
Prodromou: A genius but his work has been modified.
160. Jacobsen: Has his work been modified for better or for worse?
Prodromou: For the worse.
161. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on Aleister Crowley or his self-claimed follower Timothy Leary?
Prodromou: Both geniuses although again they have been made out to be the worst possible people to keep society from exploring their work.
162. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on Anton LaVey?
Prodromou: I would have loved to have met him.
163. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on the nature of good and evil? Does this relate to the aforementioned light and dark before, lightness and darkness before?
Prodromou: Good and evil change and are dependant on your circumstances and are in the eyes of the beholder. A cake is good comfort food unless you have diabetes. Bring those brownies next time you visit. It all depends upon where you are standing.
164. Jacobsen: Any thoughts on those who claim this is moral relativism (usually stated in a derogatory tone)? Where do you stand now, grey one?
Prodromou: I respect their right to believe what they like about the subject and hopefully they will respect mine.
165. Jacobsen: What is science? What is philosophy?
Prodromou: Science is when we prove something to be correct through “facts”. Philosophy on the other hand is your “idea” about something. My philosophy is that facts are important but intuition is more important. But you need to be sure it is your intuition talking before acting upon an impulse.
166. Jacobsen: What is a ‘fact’?
Prodromou: 1+1=2.
167. Jacobsen: What is an “idea”?
Prodromou: Something that hasn’t been proven yet to be a fact.
168. Jacobsen: Why does impulse lead to poor decisions?
Prodromou: Not always the case.
169. Jacobsen: What else could be “talking”? What means by which to differentiate intuition from other internal ‘talks’?
Prodromou: Our spirit guide.
170. Jacobsen: What if the Gospel of John alongside of the Synoptic Gospels, indeed the entirety of the Bible – Old Testament and New Testament, amount to fabricated documents or not entirely factual (as a hypothetical)? Now, most historians, secular and religious, agree Jesus Christ existed; however, all of the miracles, violations of the natural laws known today, and the fallibility of the human mind in terms of eyewitness testimony seem important to take into consideration, especially as all of the texts purport eyewitness testimony. Yet, Professor Elizabeth Loftus’s work is clear of the poor data-taking devices of human beings. In that, even if the Christian Scriptures are taken as holy, as inspired, and eyewitness testimonies, they’re still mediated by human sense perception and cogitation leading to the inevitable now-empirical conclusion of highly unreliable sources in eyewitness testimony within the field of cognitive psychology in regards to eyewitness testimony.
Prodromou: They are fabricated documents that have gone through many edits. Doesn’t mean there isn’t any truth to them. You just need to filter out the lies.
171. Jacobsen: Following from the previous question, even if we take the explicit reference to the lightness and the darkness in Christian holy texts in a base textual analysis, or even in a detailed Logos oriented interpretation of the Gospel of John starting with John 1:1 to John 1:2 with “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God,” it’s not taken as literal, but as metaphorical. Why need the text to know this? Why have a holy text at all? Why not another fallible, questionable text without the sacred, inspired assertions behind it?
Prodromou: The bible is a story about two tribes.
172. Jacobsen: Following from the previous question, what is gained by reference to a particular religious text coming from the ancient world in which philosophy was developed, but science, human rights, and so on, were not? Isn’t this simply outmoded and not needed anymore?
Prodromou: The bible tells us what has come before and what will come in the future. This year alone has been quite biblical for example.
173. Jacobsen: Following from the previous question, how would one go unnoticed while leaving a significant trace in the context of a base textual analysis and in the detailed Gospel of John analysis? I am reminded of a Margaret Atwood quote, “I would like to be the air that inhabits you for a moment only. I would like to be that unnoticed and that necessary.”
Prodromou: Just by doing one’s job. The air doesn’t ask why it is there or asks for money to be there. It is invisible but without it humanity would not exist.
174. Jacobsen: What if intuition is simply a poor reasoning apparatus output of the human organism?
Prodromou: Again it depends on your ability to reason. What if our thoughts are nor our own?
175. Jacobsen: When we take some of the more important aspects of individual identity for some members of the profoundly gifted category or the profoundly high IQs, there seems a sense of the alone-ness, in which the individual gifted person’s temperaments and gifts leaves them in a straightjacket in some manner. On the one hand, they know more than most, max out standardized tests of valid types, and can process more quickly, more in-depth, and with greater relatedness in concepts. On the other hand, this sets them apart from ordinary society in a number of regards, which can make them out of sync emotionally and socially with peers due to lack of experience either due to innate factors or more time spent in independent study, or little overlap in ways of thinking for them. It is a sort of unresolvable pickle in the ways in which the species evolved. So, in some ways, tough, get used to it, while, on the other hand, how do these individuals find a place in society for some level of optimal fit for them? How have you dealt with this coming to terms with the world?
Prodromou: We are not pieces In a jigsaw puzzle. Some of us don’t need to fit in.
176. Jacobsen: Following from the previous question, some will take a certain attitude of outright antagonism to the idea of coming to terms with the world exhibiting itself in opposition to standard sources of authority and structure and organization within the society, including established religions, governmental structures, and elders and experts within the society. This can take forms of delusions of grandeur, opposition defiance disorder, and simply taking the path of molasses all through life, which, naturally, comes with lifelong consequences for them. Any words of advice or guidance to younger members of the profoundly gifted cohort who could use some guidance in this regard?
Prodromou: Be your own person.
177. Jacobsen: For those parents with a profoundly gifted child, who can be ten years old while functioning at the intellectual capacity of a an average eighteen year old or more, what is some advice for them in terms of nutrition, fitness, and intellectual challenge?
Prodromou: Listen to the child and what he or she wants.
178. Jacobsen: When it comes to girl-girl time, boy-boy time, boy-girl time, what are some difficulties for some members of the profoundly gifted community who happen to exist in milieu of same-age peers and no peers intellectually, in a time of first finding lust and love while not having the requisite emotional maturity – even feeling intensely while lacking experience to buffer the intensity to socially and interpersonally appropriate levels?
Prodromou: This world is not ideal for everybody. It is a rich man’s world but I’d also say the better one looks the easier it is to fit in.
179. Jacobsen: How does 1-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 2-sigma intelligence in terms of behavioural and verbal proxies?
Prodromou: Not very much.
180. Jacobsen: How does 2-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 3-sigma intelligence in terms of behavioural and verbal proxies?
Prodromou: Again not very much.
181. Jacobsen: How does 3-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 4-sigma intelligence in terms of behavioural and verbal proxies?
Prodromou: Not very much.
182. Jacobsen: How does 4-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 5-sigma intelligence in terms of behavioural and verbal proxies?
Prodromou: Not very much.
183. Jacobsen: How does 5-sigma intelligence on the right-side of the bell curve differ from 6-sigma intelligence in terms of behavioural and verbal proxies?
Prodromou: Not very much. One sigma differences are insignificant. I doubt anybody can tell the difference between a 5 and 6 sigma dude just by chatting to them.
184. Jacobsen: How can societies emphasizing excellence more than equity cheer on and support the profoundly gifted and talented members of its communities?
Prodromou: Intelligence will always be repressed. Governments don’t like intelligent people that can think for themselves.
185. Jacobsen: What do you consider some of the oldest secret societies?
Prodromou: The Knights Templars.
186. Jacobsen: What seems like the general idea, while not stating the content, of many of the secret societies and the alternative theistic groups like the freemasons?
Prodromou: Self improvement and the quest for the holy grail.
187. Jacobsen: What annoys you?
Prodromou: People who think that they are always right and not open to new ideas.
188. Jacobsen: What makes you feel more at ease, at peace, with the world?
Prodromou: Not thinking about the world and not reading the media or watching TV.
189. Jacobsen: Would you ever plan to move away from Greece-Cyprus-Turkey area back to the United Kingdom or some other place? If so, why? If not, why not?
Prodromou: I don’t plan my life. I am spontaneous and may take off one day.
190. Jacobsen: Most of the more intelligent people in history known have some – what I call – lifework. Some pursuit covering a large part of their lives, in spite of the chaos, nonsense, and personality quirks that may be part and parcel of the personality behind the lifework. Do you have a lifework? If so, what? If not, why not?
Prodromou: My pursuit was my inner world. Making a better version of me. No time for anything else.
191. Jacobsen: How would you characterize the general life trajectory for you?
Prodromou: It’s hard to define.
191. Jacobsen: Where would you like your life to end up?
Prodromou: In the unknown garden of Nemo.
192. Jacobsen: What is metaphysics?
Prodromou: Why we are here.
193. Jacobsen: Why choose metaphysics from Dudeism?
Prodromou: Why we are here is a question that I have been trying to answer since I were a kid.
194. Jacobsen: Who do you consider the most creative person in history?
Prodromou: DA VINCI.
195. Jacobsen: Who do you consider the best writer in history?
Prodromou: Shakespeare.
196. Jacobsen: What are the typical societal expectations of Greek heritage women? What are the typical societal expectations of Greek heritage men?
Prodromou: Getting married and finding a nice spouse.
197. Jacobsen: What are some cultural nuances largely known only to the Greeks about the ways in which men and women, old and young, blue-collar and white-collar, and so on, exist in Greek society, in Cypriot society, and in the diaspora with Greek heritage in terms of a sense of extended identity in the Greek people?
Prodromou: I’m not the best one to answer this question. I don’t socialize enough to know.
Appendix I: Footnotes
[1] 190+ S.D. 15 on the MACH, Member, World Genius Directory.
[2] Individual Publication Date: July 1, 2020: http://www.in-sightjournal.com/prodromou-one; Full Issue Publication Date: September 1, 2020: https://in-sightjournal.com/insight-issues/.
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