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Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11)

2022-02-01

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interviewer: Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Numbering: Issue 29.A, Idea: Outliers & Outsiders (24)

Place of Publication: Langley, British Columbia, Canada

Title: In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal

Web Domain: http://www.in-sightjournal.com

Individual Publication Date: February 1, 2022

Issue Publication Date: May 1, 2022

Name of Publisher: In-Sight Publishing

Frequency: Three Times Per Year

Words: 7,597

ISSN 2369-6885

Abstract

Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) is a Member of the World Genius Directory. He discusses: intellectual interests; mockery and ridicule; a more balanced approach to life’s issues; more detailed and involved artistic productions; stopped regular sessions at church; White Christian Nationalists; step-father; a “God” and “the Grand Design”; Naturalism; human nature; a “soul”; Tango; “overall satisfaction” in life; the realization of death; favourite activity with niece; long-term social and environmental stability issues; “relatively unusual form” of the ‘might makes right’ ethic in place; an equal consideration for future generations; human identity; environmental stability; critical thinking; Khan Academy; very tall; average intelligence and high intelligence; the high-IQ communities can take lessons from these narratives; the high-IQ community; the qualities of this poor condition of the high-IQ communities; the fascination with certificates in the high-IQ communities; an individual member of the high-IQ; community is interested in getting involved in real solutions to the problems of their locale or the world; real contributions to community; cheating on the alternative tests; the alternative tests tend to inflate the scores of testees; Mensa International; the stagnant condition of the high-IQ community; alternative tests; Liam Millikan; the most impressive alternative test-takers known in the high-IQ communities; people disillusioned with the state of the high-IQ communities; random question; older individuals; superficial thinking in some of the high-IQ communities; any further controversies; the creation of alternative tests; the Tango affair; the extended sense of moral relativism; Derek; Heidi; Jodi; Elaine; Julia; mother; Jess; Harry; and the lesson in moving on, moving forward, and looking ahead.

Keywords: Anthony Sepulveda, God, high-IQ, human nature, intelligence, Liam Millikan, Mensa International, naturalism, Tango, World Genius Directory.

Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11)

*Please see the footnotes, bibliography, and citation style listing after the interview.*

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: This will be the final session. Let’s recap from the first session to the tenth: An Interview with Anthony Sepulveda on Background and Intelligence (Part One)An Interview with Anthony Sepulveda on Life and Death (Part Two)An Interview with Anthony Sepulveda on Bucket List and Culture (Part Three)An Interview with Anthony Sepulveda on Academic Institutions, Khan Academy, and Profound Gifts (Part Four)Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on the Art and State of IQ Tests: Member, World Genius Directory (5)Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Intellectual Function and Personality, Formal Mental Illness, Narcissism, Motivation, AtlantIQ-UNICEF, Jeffrey Ford, Societal Renewal, and a Holy Grail of the High-IQ Communities: Member, World Genius Directory (6)Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Liam Millikan and Lessons: Member, World Genius Directory (7)Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on An Affair, Psychological Dynamics, and Ethical Considerations: Member, World Genius Directory (8)Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Depression, Love, Recovery, and Lessons: Member, World Genius Directory (9), and Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda on Abortion, Relational Ethical Quandaries, and Mothers: Member, World Genius Directory (10). We’ve covered a wide range of material.

The eleventh session’s questions will be asked in review of parts one through ten, chronologically. You mentioned an isolated existence apart from the society in a dual-breadwinner household. Those households can make for easy self-isolation, e.g., as in the middle-upper class homes of the ‘grass-eater men’ of Japan. Similarly, you went into college and dropped out, choosing to self-educate now. What was the minor/major at the time? What have been the intellectual interests of 2021? Any planned for 2022?

Anthony Sepulveda (Brown)[1],[2]*: I wanted to pursue mathematics. But was placed in an information sciences program that I was ill suited to. Which, alongside the myriad reasons I mentioned in part 1, inspired me to leave.

Since then, I’ve made it a habit to always have something of interest to work towards; often in the form of a research to perform, a project to complete, etc. – at present date (Feb/1/2022), I’m writing a mystery novel, preparing a number of small projects for peer review this April and trying to develop the personal habits required to heavily reduce my weekly alcohol consumption.

Jacobsen: Fat teens, typically, endure mockery and ridicule. Was this the case for you? If so, did this exacerbate further self-isolation?

Sepulveda: Not that I recall, thankfully. Not everyone is so fortunate.

Jacobsen: You said, “I can’t bear to rely on others for anything important. Whatever goes wrong, I’ll do everything in my power to solve it on my own. It’s only after I’ve exhausted all my effort that I’ll ask for help. And even then, I’ll feel guilty about it.” Have you made any effort to overcome – even getting some therapeutic assistance or intervention – to find a more balanced approach to life’s issues?

Sepulveda: I can’t say for certain. My life has been quite stable for a long time now and I rarely need any kind of assistance.

Jacobsen: What have been some of the more detailed and involved artistic productions by you? Can you provide some examples, e.g., images or scans of sketches?

Sepulveda: Of course. I specialize in abstract art across several different media (painting, drawing, photography and duct tape), many of which have been published across several media outlets (including both platforms online and in a few magazines). A number of examples have been attached below.

Jacobsen: When you stopped regular sessions at church in early adolescence, what happened to social life? I am told by the ex-religious of the rejection by community and loss of friends, even a lover and family, because of it, i.e., exemplifying a tribalism inherent in religiosity.

Sepulveda: My social life didn’t really change. If anything, it improved. I was fortunate enough not to have any close relationships with anyone so unreasonable as to sever a friendship over a simple difference of opinion.

Jacobsen: Any thoughts of White Christian Nationalists in America now? Those in a demographic slide to irrelevancy based on a voiding of overwhelming dominance of the political activism, finances, and demographic numbers in decades prior to the 2020s. Some in the high-IQ communities harbour such views or deny such views, as in rejecting the titles, while publicly expressing the views, prominent and not. It’s akin to the viewing of racists using IQ arguments to bolster racist views, which makes sense, of course, from their point of view: Racists will use anything to justify their ideological stances and prejudices.

Sepulveda: Bigotry of any kind is, by definition, unreasonable and not something I respect to any degree. From my experience and observation, IQ has nothing to do with your ethnic background or even one’s general beliefs. If anything, it comes down to one’s motivation and imagination and how they use them to cope with their social environment.

And I personally believe that religion has no place in politics. At least until someone can definitively prove which one is real and end all the senseless behavior inspired by strong beliefs.

Jacobsen: I was thinking about your relationship with your step-father. There is a sense of mutuality and respect between the two of you. The hinge is your mother and her happiness. What other lessons can be derived from the role of a father for a stepfather in relationship with a non-biological son where respect, mutual trust, and common goals (mom’s happiness) are present?

Sepulveda: The best thing he showed me (by his own actions more than anything else) was not to try to be something I’m not. A quick example – he’s never tried to fill my father’s position. He offered, but never imposed his beliefs or opinions on me or my siblings. If one of us needed him, he was there. But his primary focus was being a good partner to my mother. I’m thankful for that and greatly appreciate him and the role he performs as a part of my family.

Jacobsen: Is faith, in essence, based on an immature pollyanna view of the world with an assertion – or some vague hope – of a “God” and “the Grand Design”?

Sepulveda: I have to say yes. Throughout my life I’ve known many people whose entire understanding of reality balances precariously on the belief in a higher, loving power. It saddens me to see so many otherwise rational people that are too scared to accept their ignorance and reality as it is. But I have little room to judge them. Life can be very stressful and we all need something comfortable to cushion ourselves.

Jacobsen: How would you define the natural, as in Naturalism?

Sepulveda: As that which is and that which can be logically inferred or determined from natural phenomena.

Jacobsen: Are any facets of human nature indeterministic?

Sepulveda: If there are, I don’t see them. All I can do is assure you and anyone reading that wants me to be wrong is that I’ve been proven wrong on many occasions and will continue to keep my eyes and mind open in the future in case I am in this matter.

Jacobsen: What definition of a “soul” makes sense to you? One connected to our physical self. Do you believe in any non-physical parts of the self?

Sepulveda: While many spiritual ideas on the matter make a certain amount of sense, I can’t hold any to be true until I find evidence that souls truly exist at all. Unlike many, I require evidence to form a valid opinion and would rather have questions than faith.

Jacobsen: When you told Tango how much she meant to you, what was her reaction?

Sepulveda: Initially, she’d smile and we’d hold each other close for as long as we could. But the last time we spoke she felt I was trying to manipulate any guilt she had about her choices and, to preserve her relationship with another man, she cut me out of her life.

It still hurts to think about. But my pain has been greatly relieved by the knowledge that my decisions made sense while hers did not. We ended our affair so that she could give her husband one final chance by focusing on marriage counseling. Having another affair benefited no one in the short or long term and went completely against everything she’d been working towards.

Jacobsen: How would you define “overall satisfaction” in life, as this was mentioned as something of greater concern before death – in the second interview sessions?

Sepulveda: I simply want to reach the end of my life with more fun stories than regrets. I feel that’s all I can reasonably expect of reality. Who am I to ask for more?

Jacobsen: What are your priorities in the realization of death? What do you consider your position in the game of life?

Sepulveda: My position is relative to the pieces around me and my priority is the preservation and prosperity of myself and those I care for. Life is brief and fragile. And of course I’ll try to get as much out of it as I can. But if I only succeed in benefiting a few good people, then I can live and die with that.

Jacobsen: What is your favourite activity with your niece?

Sepulveda: I love listening to the things she says. No matter what we’re doing, she can describe the simplest situation in the funniest way. For example, she was three years old when she met my friend Harry’s newborn daughter Cora. Cora was a very calm, sleepy baby and on the day they met Piper got to hold her while Harry and I were doing something in the next room. After looking at her for a few moments, I overheard her say, “She has hair like Uncle.” And I must have laughed for several minutes straight, at least.

Jacobsen: Since the beginning of the interview, what long-term social and environmental stability issues have been made worse, more clearly needing action?

Sepulveda: Outside of my environmental concerns, the biggest issue that’s grown since then (here in America, at least) is the increasing sense of division amongst people along racial, sexual, personal identity and political lines. It’s been a strange couple years (2019-2021) where riots vandalized whole blocks of cities and victims were criticized by onlookers for simply cleaning up the mess left in the wake.

These perceived divisions primarily come from various areas of online social media where complaints can spread and snowball quickly, creating an illusion that these problems are significantly larger than they actually are. Too often, these illusions are enough to scare many businesses and media outlets into implementing changes that the silent majority don’t care for in an attempt to silence the vocal minority. This has caused a lot of problems recently, including the censorship of many people sharing certain opinions, instilling fear that  police should be disbanded (which is absolutely ridiculous) and inspiring some of the most bizarre and violent behavior I’ve seen in my life.

Clearly, we have a lot of work to do.

Jacobsen: What is the “relatively unusual form” of the ‘might makes right’ ethic in place?

Sepulveda: ‘Might makes right’ commonly refers to interpersonal situations (most commonly in prisons, lower class areas and, of course, in nature among animals) where conflicts of interest are resolved using physical force. In these instances, whoever is strongest or most savage usually comes out on top and dictates their will over others tyrannically as the alpha.

In modern times, most interpersonal conflicts are resolved using reason (via discussion, laws enforcement, money or some combination of the three) and who has the advantage is often determined by the social standing or position of authority. Because of this, members of the upper class (especially those of the top 0.1%) have the most privilege and influence over others and results in a social system as tyrannical as any found in nature. There is a plethora of examples of this process occuring throughout history, but I’ll focus on the current state of the U.S..

If you were to ask someone about the American political system, they’d most likely describe it as a democracy. And they’d be incorrect. America is an oligarchy run by the members of the Electoral College and their affiliates. This is a group so influential that they’ve abolished our previous system of checks and balances, giving themselves almost complete freedom to allocate funds as they choose. Coupled with their close ties to big businesses, they’re able to use their political influence to sway insider trading and maximize profits for themselves. So, given the facts that these individuals are among the wealthiest and best protected, who create our laws and can determine their own salaries at will, it seems just as tyrannical as any dynamic found in nature.

And while I can only speak confidently on the status of the country within which I reside, it seems reasonable to presume that human nature is consistent enough for similar dynamics to exist all over the world. The only major differences between them appears to be how open the political leaders of each region are about how the world really works.

This is the nature of the ‘relatively unusual form’ of ‘might makes right’. Because no matter which politician you select (with the exceptions of Mirko Cro Cop and Manny Pacquiao), they will be among the least capable of our species. They’re advantages and positions are determined solely by the circumstances of their birth, the belief of those ‘beneath’ them that they have any real authority and their willingness to do what it takes to maintain their position in the game of life. This is a fairly obvious series of facts and, yet, no one does anything about it. Perhaps that’s due to how well protected these individuals try to be. By why would anyone protect them? Could any amount of personal benefit influence someone’s decision to accept and maintain such corruption?

Jacobsen: How would one apply an equal consideration for future generations as “relative equals”?

Sepulveda: We need to orient ourselves so that we can all exist in a completely sustainable manner. The Earth and it’s environments are the most valuable resources we have, so we need to learn how to maximize their efficiency and reduce all risks of depletion. This will ensure future generations have the same chance we had to have a decent quality of life.

Jacobsen: Does Secular Humanism seem to exemplify personal views most for you? I point to a short series of internationally accepted statements in the Amsterdam Declaration 2002 or exemplified in the life path and personhood of a friend, Nsajigwa I Mwasokwa (Nsajigwa Nsa’sam).

Sepulveda: Yes, I believe strongly that one doesn’t and shouldn’t require an outside force to motivate one’s decision to live ethically.

Jacobsen: If a soul exists, and if it would exist on a ground state of effervescence, or dynamism and transience, what would this mean for reinterpretation of religious perspectives or Pagan views of a soul or a spirit, respectively, as a base of human identity?

Sepulveda: It would be very interesting if that could be proven definitively. As it would imply that, while our external forms look different, we are all parts of the same collective consciousness. I’d like to imagine how this new understanding would bring us all together, but I fear it’d only amount to being another voice in the crowd.

Jacobsen: Are there any other companies than Mycoworks that impressed you, regarding long-term environmental stability?

Sepulveda: There are a number of environmental conservation companies that are doing some wonderful work cleaning the ocean (most notably Clean Ocean).

I’d also like to mention Thorn and the Grey Owl Company. Human trafficking and child abuse are among the very worst things this world has to offer. And while it’s possible that it will continue happening until we go extinct, it’s a small comfort to know that not all those stories end tragically.

Jacobsen: As an example of the radical transformations in education, one might be the reverse classroom. Where, students spend much less time in the class and more time at home, or independently, researching projects and tasks, as assigned. The teacher becomes more of a guide than anything else. Standardization in education can hamper this in being entrenched in its processes and bureaucracy. Everything is structured, which can be good. But everything is, more or less, rigid, which can constrict the learning environment for learners and educators alike. We are seeing this hand being forced with COVID-19. However, if done more progressively, in stages, I could see something of a graduate-level style education as the form of undergraduate education moving forward. Does this seem reasonable to you – having students learn critical thinking through independent semi-guided schooling in a reverse classroom? You alluded to this in one of your answers.

Sepulveda: It would probably work well for many college programs, but I wouldn’t recommend implementing a system like it for all schools. In my opinion, the most important part of attending school is learning about social dynamics and how to talk to, interact with and deal with others. Lacking these experiences would be a massive deficit to the development of one’s personality and maturity and have a terrible impact on their lives.

Jacobsen: Have you jumped back onto the Khan Academy again, yet? I have about 8,000,000 or so points.

Sepulveda: Very impressive. I have not used their services since we spoke about it last.

Jacobsen: You mentioned being very tall. How tall is “very tall” (for your age)? How tall now?

Sepulveda: I grew to over 6 foot in my early teens, almost a full foot taller than average. I’m currently 6′ 3″ (1.9 meters), half a foot taller than average.

Jacobsen: What effects do average intelligence and high intelligence have on personality – differences, similarities?

Sepulveda: It’s difficult to say. Most personality traits developed as a result of your experiences. So I feel safe in saying that the biggest impact it will have is on your confidence and, possibly, your ability to handle stress. If a person has a history of successfully solving or resolving problems (either academic or personal), it stands to reason that it would take more than average to upset them.

Jacobsen: When I worked my way to the Executive Director and Editor-in-Chief/Chief Editor position of United Sigma Korea as we, YoungHoon Bryan Kim and I, transitioned into United Sigma Intelligence Association in 2019-2020, I trained the president, at the time, in a large number of ways, who was the Senior Membership Officer of the Mega Foundation and an acolyte of its president, Mr. Christopher Michael Langan, at the time. He called me his saviour for the guidance and mentorship while working with him. Then, after a time, I formally resigned. He tried to get me back for about a year or more. As far as I have been informed, both the Mega Foundation (etc.) and USIA leadership, in private in one case, or in part of a public statement online for months in another, appeared to claim to know the reason(s), independently. Here’s the catch, I never said all of the formal reason(s), or much of any of them, in fact, if any. Thus, obvious conclusion, both lied, in different ways – one to an entire community based entirely on image. Also, I was promptly erased from most of the public or digital history of the positions from USIA, except a request to republish some interviews, which was permitted. Some should be wary. Acolytes, even simply sympathizers, of the Mega Foundation, or the former member of the Mega Society and leader too, in fact, have a long history (many years) of online harassing or verbally/psychologically abusing perceived ‘enemies’ of them, which goes to your point about narcissistic tendencies, grandiosity, and the like. Anyone can search the online records for these. Myself, I, as far as I know, was called, a “stupid little idiot” or something like this, by the stupid big meta-idiot. Some sympathetic individuals who have done interviews have chosen to become anonymous; some talk about changing a lot and evolving a different outlook. People can take a test and get a big head about it – so to speak. It’s something to be mindful about if wanting to enter the community, as such, and become a responsible leader. The academically qualified, intelligent wife was nice to me, though. As a rule of thumb, it’s similar – not the same – to some of the extreme tribalism and in-group/out-group behaviour of religious zealots, particularly majority white sects of Christianity in America against everyone else. They seem as if mirrors, as in East and West cultural manifestations, of similar phenomena. For myself, I self-publish some productions, have luck to do interviews, and work mostly blue-collar jobs. I’m, basically, a nobody. So, you don’t have to listen to me. Nonetheless, for what it’s worth, I trust members of the high-IQ communities can take lessons from these narratives. It was an interesting experience. I only had myself to rely on, in those instances. Any comments or thoughts on this theme?

Sepulveda: Aside from the positions you previously held within the organizations mentioned, my experiences have been nearly identical. I was associated with several people you alluded to (the heads of the Mega Foundation and USIA) for a short while, but was excommunicated for voicing an unpopular opinion (being pro choice) in one and revealing evidence that supported a dissenting individual in the other. Both cases were quite disappointing because I didn’t see anything wrong with my actions and was open to discussing both matters if I was. But, after reviewing the psychological evidence I’d gleaned from my experiences with these individuals, I feel it’s safe to assume that cultural differences likely motivated one while shear ego motivated the other.

Jacobsen: Is the high-IQ community still in “very poor condition”? Are there any other reasons than personal self-esteem enhancement in general?

Sepulveda: I am not aware of any major changes that may have occurred recently. It still seems like a place to collect new certificates for previous performances.

Jacobsen: What are the qualities of this poor condition of the high-IQ communities?

Sepulveda: The community lacks of a sense of cohesive direction or purpose. Outside of the few individuals looking to use the group’s collective experience for the benefit of others, there’s nothing particularly noteworthy about its members.

Jacobsen: What is the fascination with certificates in the high-IQ communities? I speak only as an orbiting rock – some might say, “Dense as” – in the Oort Cloud, but still…

Sepulveda: Honestly, I don’t see the appeal at this point. They’re essentially just participation trophies for sports you used to play.

Jacobsen: If an individual member of the high-IQ community is interested in getting involved in real solutions to the problems of their locale or the world, what is the first step?

Sepulveda: First, identify which issues are important to you. Then look for local or online groups that work to resolve said issue. If they exist, join them and try to work with them to be as efficient as possible. If they don’t exist locally, consider founding such a group yourself.

Jacobsen: What types of things can advance making real contributions to community – local and global – on the part of a member of the high-IQ community?

Sepulveda: I tried to call attention to the myriad of problems hampering the community and offered several solutions that would greatly legitimize their claims of genuine intellectual superiority. But many people (especially the test designers whose works I’ve criticized) wouldn’t hear it. They seem to believe that their work is above reproach. One particularly arrogant designer asserts that his tests are ‘perfect’.

Jacobsen: How common is cheating on the alternative tests?

Sepulveda: Very common. I’ve learned that even those who consistently score highest aren’t above creating a false identity to take a test multiple times.

Jacobsen: How many IQ points do the alternative tests tend to inflate the scores of testees?

Sepulveda: According to the psychometrician for the ISPE, the best tests around can only accurately measure up to 150 (about 1:1,000). This is about 40 points lower than many tests being pushed throughout the community at large.

A good example would be my own scores. I got 15/16 questions correct on James Dorsey’s test Cosmic which he equated to a theoretical IQ of 174 based on the data supplied by 30 people.

In comparison, my performance on the Cattell’s Culturally Fair Test was around 135. This test has existed for many years and been taken by several thousand people. More than enough to validate it’s results and almost exactly 40 points lower than my Cosmic score.

Clearly, it’d be both presumptuous and arrogant of me to presume that I am an Olympic level ultra-genius based on the results of a flawed test. But I’d like to take a moment to acknowledge those aware of my ‘status’ or ‘ranking’ on the World Genius Directory.

Initially, I attempted to have myself ranked according to my results on the test Fiqure (162 first attempt). While it’s results are somewhat controversial, I had enough faith in Dr. Katsoulis (who accepts admission into the Helliq Society from the results of this test) to deem it acceptable for submission. But this wasn’t acceptable to the person in charge of the PSIQ website (despite there being several people listed under the ‘genius’ category based on their results from the very same test). So, I submitted my Cosmic results instead.

If the accuracy of the results don’t matter, why shouldn’t I be rated as high as I can? This is the crux of the problems within the High IQ Community.

Jacobsen: What parts of the Mensa International community have you taken part in?

Sepulveda: I used to interact with the international community on social media. But I recently concluded that such outlets can be an unhealthy distraction and deleted my accounts so I can focus on those closer to me.

Jacobsen: With the stagnant condition of the high-IQ community now, what are the alternatives in the forms of artistic or scientific societies, or some other alternatives? Areas or organizations in which intelligent individuals with particular focus can find a common ground and community to make some positive humanistic contribution to society.

Sepulveda: Intelligence is irrelevant if you want to find a group with similar interests. There is a plethora of art galleries and community services you can volunteer for. If you have any specific interest you’d like to pursue, just Google (for example – photography) groups in your area and I guarantee that anyone living in areas of dense enough population can find a group of like-minded individuals.

Within a few minutes of online enquiry, I was able to find several art galleries, political groups, writing and poetry clubs, a plethora of religious and nondenominational services, an adult sex education organization and a group of people that like to make functional mermaid outfits and swim together.

To be fair, I live in the Seattle area and will naturally have more options available to me than average. But I’m confident that anyone with a decent internet connection can find something of interest.

Jacobsen: Any submissions to your alternative test, yet?

Sepulveda: Yes. After a couple years there have been four submissions from three people. The highest score at the time of this interview is 25/50.

Jacobsen: Any further updates from the fallout of the Liam Millikan example? Any further commentary? As a community observer, it was intriguing as a phenomenon. Thank you for bringing it to my attention, too, by the way.

Sepulveda: You’re welcome.

It was very interesting to see how the community responded to it. Since then, however, it doesn’t appear to have had any long lasting effects. All the tests that were compromised are still available and accepted for admission into the various groups.

And I have yet to receive any contact from Mr. Millikan.

Jacobsen: Who are the most impressive alternative test-takers known in the high-IQ communities known to you? Why them? What makes their stature, as such, earned sufficiently to garner a respected reputation in the community?

Sepulveda: The only people that come to mind are Domagoj Kutle and Naoki Kouda. When I was using social media, Domagoj would regularly post the results he got on the wide variety of tests he’s taken. And while the tests may not be the best, I have to say it’s very impressive to do so well on so many. Many of them were very strange and I couldn’t get a handle on what they were going for.

As for Naoki, he’s been working on some very interesting spatial tests, has held the highest score on several difficult tests over the course of several years (irrelevant of validity, it’s a fairly impressive accomplishment) and is the only other person I’m aware of who’s been concerned about the quality of those used for admission.

Jacobsen: Are many people disillusioned with the state of the high-IQ communities at this time?

Sepulveda: I believe so. There are only few hundred active members of the community at the moment. And when anyone leaves such groups, they tend not to stay up to date on the comings and goings of them. So it’s entirely possible that such people are now a silent majority.

Jacobsen: Liam seems like a moral person who directed attention in a drastic presentation as to the flaws in some of the foundations of the community vis-à-vis its tests and testing methodologies. C’est la vie ‘Kana Kana,’ and “Hakuna Matata.” Random question: Do you own any animals?

Sepulveda: It may be impossible to determine Liam’s moral character definitively based on a single instance. All I can say with certainty is that I agree with him about the state of the community and the tests used for admission into it.

I hope I get a chance to understand him better in the future, but the odds of that happening are undeniably low. Feel free to pass along my contact info if he gets in touch with you.

No, I dedicate a lot of time to work, personal projects and other people. So I fear that owning a pet would inevitably lead to an unhealthy amount of neglect that it wouldn’t deserve.

Jacobsen: Why did so many older individuals in these societies, from the personal accounting – by you, simply quote famous intellectuals? It seems decidedly anti-intellectual.

Sepulveda: From my experience, the more average type of person would be impressed or intimated by the knowledge base or expertise of someone reciting famous quotes. It can give the impression of a high level of expertise with a difficult or esoteric subject, but it’s really just pretentious pomp. No more impressive than being able to remember what you had for dinner last week. Still they’ll keep doing it if people are more often impressed than not to feel good about themselves.

Being smart doesn’t change human nature.

Jacobsen: Is there a pattern of superficial thinking in some of the high-IQ communities?

Sepulveda: In general, that seems like a fair presumption.

Jacobsen: Have there been any further controversies or updates impactful to community relayed to you, since a reduction in time spent there?

Sepulveda: Not that I’m aware of.

Jacobsen: What might make the creation of alternative tests more honest in their representation of claimed IQ scores?

Sepulveda: The tests would need to be longer (50-200 problems), have a larger sample size for statistical accuracy (2,000 people minimum) and design the problems in such a manner that a majority of mental abilities are tested without requiring any specific knowledge. A decent test could be composed of problems similar to those on humanbenchmark.com and a variety of spatial and pure logic problems.

Jacobsen: How are you feeling about the Tango affair now?

Sepulveda: I used to experience a lot of mixed emotions whenever something reminds me of her (which happens quite often, even a year afterwards. Rarely does a day go by where she hasn’t been in my thoughts) – hurt, longing, anger and sympathy flood my brain and were quite difficult to manage. Since then I’ve made a lot of progress and only feel a certain amount of tension as I instinctively cease all thought until the initial response to such reminders come to an end.

As to the affair itself, if I imagine a scenario where I were to somehow able to place my current consciousness into my younger self, holding her close as we watched the moon rise or our first kiss… I guarantee my dumb ass would do it all over again.

Jacobsen: What is the extended sense of moral relativism when it comes to the real world? Obviously, you mean an empirical moral philosophy taking into account the real feelings and actions of individuals in the world rather than references to transcendental nothingness.

Sepulveda: Of course. In my opinion, transcendental philosophy isn’t grounded enough to reflect the everyday reality we all face. My understanding of moral relativity is founded on psychology.

I believe that, when faced with any divisive situation, the direction of everyone’s individual moral compass is directed by the average result of similar situations we’ve previously experienced.

Jacobsen: Your commentary on Tango was extensive and may not need much more. Have you found love again or hints of it?

Sepulveda: I don’t have much more to say on the subject beyond the details provided below. Almost anything else I could share would be entirely inappropriate for this outlet and incredibly disrespectful to Tango.

No, I have not yet been so lucky. But that’s okay. In the long run it’s probably better that I’ve been focusing on my mental well being.

Jacobsen: Why did Derek ask you how you were at work?

Sepulveda: I’ve never been one to hide how I feel. So it was plain as day to see that something traumatic had happened in my life. Any decent person would inquire and try to help, even if they could only listen. But he was the only one to do so, so it’s only right that I show him how much that meant to me.

Jacobsen: Why did Heidi give you her number and her time?

Sepulveda: Heidi is the owner of a local business I visit daily as part of my job. We met a few years ago when an old woman heard she was single and was trying to play matchmaker. At the time, I suggested that we just play along because it’d make the woman happy and that she would likely keep sending her suitors if we didn’t.

As mentioned above, my mood was easy enough to deduce. So, she offered me her number in case I needed someone to talk to. We talked for a while and even went out to lunch one afternoon (which was wonderful). There, we spoke openly for a few hours and I’m very grateful that she took the time to do so.

Jacobsen: What is the sense of only being heard and not listened to, in any moment? How was Jodi different in this respect, in listening?

Sepulveda: In all honesty, I chose to mention Jodi because she was a friend who was initially willing to let me express myself freely when most others didn’t and felt she deserved to mentioned as a courtesy. But in the time between when that part was published and this one, I’ve completely disassociated myself from her. We have a couple differences of opinion and, while any mature adult should be able to let such things slide, she’d use them as an excuse to start arguments with me at every opportunity. Which is a real shame. I greatly enjoyed talking with her.

Jacobsen: How did Elaine put up with you?

Sepulveda: As I mentioned in part 9, Tango is a lingerie model. So it should come as no surprise that she feels obligated to look a certain way. I grew concerned when I learned that she’d started skipping meals on a fairly frequent basis. So, alongside all the other things I did for her, I made sure that she was eating regularly.

As for Elaine, she is the office eye candy where I work and, unfortunately, has to put up with a lot of extra, completely unnecessary attention from others because of how she looks. I’m not proud to admit that I used be one such nuisance. But I’ve learned a lot and matured noticably as a direct result of meeting her. Now, I try to limit myself to maintaining a (mostly) professional relationship with her, only sticking around to see how she’s doing and/or share ridiculous jokes to make her laugh whenever I perceive that she’s feeling stressed.

One evening after the affair had ended, Elaine was feeling light headed and it turned out that she’d been skipping a few meals as well. I’d been so busy helping Tango every day (keeping her fed, helping her study, working out together via FaceTime, acting as personal security and literally messaging each other all day, every day for months on end) that I felt a vacuous hole in my life after she cut me out of hers. So I jumped at the first opportunity I could to resume that role. And, thankfully, she was receptive enough to my assistance to put up with me while I worked to resolve my anguish.

Jacobsen: Who is Julia? How did she spend time with you? What made this time different than other times?

Sepulveda: Julia was a pretty close friend that I first encountered during the affair. I’d made an offhanded remark about how being too clean during the pandemic could lead to autoimmune disease in some people and she quickly responded with a very, very well educated correction. Little did I know that she works as a lab tech at a local hospital and the last type of person I should be ignorantly speaking around. I was very impressed and wanted to ask for a chance to get to know her.

That opportunity arose shortly after the affair ended. We bumped into each other and, likely due to the combination of my obvious emotional state and her generous nature, she agreed to meet me at a local taproom. Now, it should go without saying that it would generally be very unwise for a young woman to meet up with a very upset man you don’t know and add alcohol to the mix, especially when you don’t have anything to benefit from the situation. But she did. And I am especially grateful to her for doing so. It was a very pleasant evening that did a lot of good for my mental state.

We then became pretty close friends over the course of several months, spending time together frequently at a number of bars and enjoying some of the best conversations I’ve had in years. But, sadly, I’m no longer in contact with her. Various factors that would be inappropriate and disrespectful to share prevented us from spending any more time together.

But that’s okay. I understand why it has to be this way and have nothing but gratitude and respect for her. She truly a wonderful person and I’m so thankful for the time she allowed me to share with her.

Jacobsen: What have been the critical times in life when your mother was there for you, while others were not?

Sepulveda: There are a plethora of examples I could give you. But for the sake of brevity and my ego, I’ll simply say that she’s been the most reliable person in my life and I am incredibly thankful that out of everyone living, I am lucky enough to be the son of the one I respect the most.

Jacobsen: How were you on a path towards prison in the path? How did Jess guide you away from it?

Sepulveda: Once or twice a week, every week, Tango would call me crying over something her husband had said or did. During the affair I would assure her that he was wrong, that no good man would hurt her like that and that it would all go away after the divorce was finalized. After the affair ended, before she cut me out, she continued to call me when things got bad. I soon began to feel culpable, that my knowledge of her situation and inactivity contributed to the pain felt by the one I loved most. Given the complex dynamic she’d established, I worried that she’d lose the courage to leave him. So, I considered all the options I had to help her and how much longer I could allow him to hurt her.

I began to actively consider killing her husband.

I didn’t know much about the photographer, but at least she never cried about him until the abortion.

I began to weigh the significance of my life against the odds that following through with this act would benefit the lives of Tango, her child, the photographer and all their descendents. As we know, children that grow up in abusive households often follow suit. So I asked those closest to me – how long do I let him hurt her until I make him stop?

Almost everyone responded in the same way. Saying that it isn’t an option because it was wrong, I’m a good guy and it’d destroy my future opportunities. They didn’t understand how much she meant to me, that under most circumstances I wouldn’t hesitate to sacrifice anything for the one I love.

Only Jess (a young woman I met through work that I spent my lunch breaks with every day) understood me well enough to help me see the truth. If her best friend killed her husband and went to prison, that would be the most traumatic thing to ever happen to her. She’d feel indescribably guilty and blame herself for everything (because she always does). And I knew her well enough to be certain she wouldn’t survive that.

Jess proved to me that I was wrong. That my actions attempting to save two lives would have a much higher risk of ending four.

I can’t thank her enough for that.

From now on everything I do is thanks to her. Every project I complete. Every laugh I share. Every second of freedom I experience is thanks to what she said that day.

I’ll never be able to thank her enough.

Jacobsen: Who is Harry? How did he keep engaging with you, keep you smiling?

Sepulveda: Harry is my closest friend. During that period, he spent a lot of time with me. Ghost of Tsushima had just launched the multiplayer option online and we were on it daily. This was important because I couldn’t focus on anything that didn’t require my immediate attention. So games became a very useful distraction (especially Senua’s Sacrifice and Days Gone, which allowed me to feel testosterone again. Fun fact – I loved those games so much I framed them upon completion).

You may recall that during that time I was so depressed I couldn’t even fake a smile. Not even my niece could pull one out of me. But about two months into this period, Harry invited me to his child’s gender reveal party. I went and was content to drink alone in the garage so as not to bring down anybody’s mood. Harry wouldn’t hear of it and kept me busy throughout the proceedings.

They started taking commemorative photos a few hours in and, as Harry has appointed me as godfather to his daughter, he and I had to get a few of us together. Now, due to him being overweight and the pair of us being absolute goofs, we naturally had to take one of me kissing his belly as though he were the one who was pregnant.

That was the first time I smiled in two months.

It was the first solid step in my recovery since losing Tango. I’m not sure I’d be alive today if not for that moment.

I could not be more grateful to have him in my life.

Jacobsen: And to Tango, last but not least, what is the lesson in moving on, moving forward, and looking ahead?

Sepulveda: I was forced to accept many hard truths from my experiences with Tango –

  1. Life isn’t fair. The outcomes we face don’t depend on what anyone deserves.
  2. You can’t always solve another person’s problems. Sometimes, no matter what you offer or how sound your argument is, you’ll never be able to alter another person’s perceptions or course in life. It’s up to that individual to accept their responsibility and better themselves on their own accord. To place any of that responsibility on yourself is unreasonable and will only add an unnecessary amount of stress to your life.
  3. Perhaps the most tragic lesson of all – some people don’t really know what it feels like to love and/or be loved.

This may seem like an arrogant assumption, but let me explain – Most emotions like sadness and anger are simple to understand due to their association with relatively specific circumstances. But love is unique insofar as that it is often confused by experiencing lust, jealousy and sympathy as you express it. So our understanding of love becomes muddled by the extra noise.

But stripped down to the truth, it’s plain to see that love isn’t really an emotion. It’s a motivating factor. To love is have the genuine, selfless desire to make someone feel happy. Whatever that requires.

Appendix I: Footnotes

[1] Member, World Genius Directory.

[2] Individual Publication Date: February 1, 2022: http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11; Full Issue Publication Date: May 1, 2022: https://in-sightjournal.com/insight-issues/.

*High range testing (HRT) should be taken with honest skepticism grounded in the limited empirical development of the field at present, even in spite of honest and sincere efforts. If a higher general intelligence score, then the greater the variability in, and margin of error in, the general intelligence scores because of the greater rarity in the population.

Appendix II: Citation Style Listing

American Medical Association (AMA): Jacobsen S. Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11)[Online]. February 2022; 29(A). Available from: http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11.

American Psychological Association (APA, 6th Edition, 2010): Jacobsen, S.D. (2022, February 1). Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11)Retrieved from http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11.

Brazilian National Standards (ABNT): JACOBSEN, S. Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11). In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal. 29.A, February. 2022. <http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11>.

Chicago/Turabian, Author-Date (16th Edition): Jacobsen, Scott. 2022. “Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11).” In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal. 29.A. http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11.

Chicago/Turabian, Humanities (16th Edition): Jacobsen, Scott “Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11).” In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal. 29.A (February 2022). http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11.

Harvard: Jacobsen, S. 2022, ‘Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11)In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal, vol. 29.A. Available from: <http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11>.

Harvard, Australian: Jacobsen, S. 2022, ‘Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11)In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal, vol. 29.A., http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11.

Modern Language Association (MLA, 7th Edition, 2009): Scott D. Jacobsen. “Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11).” In-Sight: Independent Interview-Based Journal 29.A (2022): February. 2022. Web. <http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11>.

Vancouver/ICMJE: Jacobsen S. Conversation with Anthony Sepulveda (Brown) on Recapturing Everything: Member, World Genius Directory (11)[Internet]. (2022, February 29(A). Available from: http://www.in-sightjournal.com/sepulveda-11.

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