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Born to do Math 39 – Metaprimes (Part 5)

2022-03-28

Author(s): Scott Douglas Jacobsen and Rick Rosner

Publication (Outlet/Website): Born To Do Math

Publication Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 2017/04/15

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: That’s really cool and sparked two thoughts for me.

Rick Rosner: It is cool if it is true, but is a decent line of inquiry. But it could be bullshit.

SDJ: It is fascinating. I hadn’t thought of that before. Assuming the axioms as true, taking them on hand, applying them in an IC framework, you get a minima and maxima in different domains. Minima in principles. Let’s assume them. A set of simple principles, then you derive a universe. That universe begins to develop higher-order combinatorics. You get lots of information from that.

Then you have maxima in terms of how far the processing goes based on the amount of information that is there. And those, to me, tap really neatly into a lot of things we’ve been talking about over the last couple years about IC, about digital physics. For instance, you assume a couple things. You get primes and metaprimes, but there’s a limit on how far you can go with them based on limits in processing. It is semi-neat.

RR: What that brings up to me is that, you need a—for the universe to be an information processor, for it to be true, or for it to be a map of the information in an information processor, it needs to informationally efficient in some ways. It also needs to be super messy because when we look out at the universe. We see great order. We also see huge messiness. What goes on in a star or in a star that’s run out of fuel and exploded and restarted, exploded again, it looks sloppy.

We are highly ordered on Earth, but messy, drooly, meat machines. There’s a mixture of deep order and associated with that is complexity in the form of messiness.

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