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Cognitive Thrift 17 – Jocks vs. Nerds

2022-03-21

Author(s): Scott Douglas Jacobsen and Rick Rosner

Publication (Outlet/Website): Cognitive Thrift

Publication Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 2017/05/27

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: We have talked about dynamic, static, ways of thought. You have  characterized as ‘jocks’ in a larger theme of jocks vs. nerds in larger evolutionary theory. 

Rick Rosner: Well-adapted organisms in stable environments: jocks. 

Jacobsen: This could be tied into cybernetics with systems that have elevated levels of  feedback, where systems that are static have less feedback. 

Rosner: Sure – we’re talking about dogma in society. 

Jacobsen: Yes, as a larger theme, yes. 

Rosner: So, if you’re looking at the Middle Ages, where – and I know there are nuanced and  revisionist pictures of the Middle Ages that have changes happening all the time if you happen to  know a lot a history and I don’t – a lot of things stayed the same generation after generation.  

The cathedral might take 120 years to put up, so when after your kid looks at a cathedral that’s 30  feet higher than you did when you were his age. 

And that kid looks at a cathedral that’s another 3 stories higher. Meanwhile, you are farmer,  bakers, and barrel makers and living kind of the same types of lives under the same political,  religious systems in a lot of cases.  

I mean, yea political boundaries change and there were doctrinary changes, but there was a lot of  stability. Certainly, more stability more than there is now, and stability is amenable to stable  rules. 

I may have mentioned this before, but my kid and I for her 21st birthday. We went to Italy and  we were looking at a bunch art from the Romans and then from the Christians, and between the  Romans and the Christians. There seemed to have been a major loss in ability to realistically  render the human body. 

The Romans had good-looking statues, and whatever survives of their frescoes or whatever.  They obviously understood the human body. 

All its muscles and bones and how they worked, and then you get to the Christians and you have  cartoonish figures robes, and it seems like a giving up of that area of knowledge and giving it  back to God.

We worry about our spiritual fitness, and we worry about our bodies and how they work. hat  kind of suggests a certain at-homeness with stability in a lot of places over the next 1,000 years,  and when politics is table, when religions are stable, when societal patterns are stable, and people  aren’t really trying to rock the boat. That permits or encourages stable rules. 

And in a lot of instances a lack of curiosity or at least a lack of encouragement of curiosity. [End of recorded material]

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