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Cognitive Thrift 10 – OCD

2022-03-21

Author(s): Scott Douglas Jacobsen and Rick Rosner

Publication (Outlet/Website): Cognitive Thrift

Publication Date (yyyy/mm/dd): 2017/05/20

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: How does this apply to you outside of diagnoses of OCD? 

Rick Rosner: Through our talks I’ve developed of what I believe, I believe that simple forms of  order are more likely to be self-consistent and are thus more likely to pop up in the world and in  abstract systems of logic and abstract systems of analyzing the world.  

The self-consistency is kind of the key to existence. Things that are contradictory can’t exist for  long. 

And to me this feels as if this belief system is sufficiently pinned down that it will be durable and  hard-edged once it’s fully developed. At the same time, my feelings about self-consistency being  the key to everything or non-contradiction being the key reflect faith in order, and it doesn’t feel  mystical to me.  

But if you push it far enough to the area of what I know and don’t know, and if you push it far  enough into what I don’t know, there’s faith that these stabs are the nature of things will  eventually become logically and scientifically substantiatable, but right now there is a lot of faith  there. 

I have an increasing belief that there are powerful forces favoring the arrow of time at work in  the universe. Specifically, energy lost by particles travelling long distances across the universe  and losing energy to space, but there’s a lot of faith in that in that my mathematical training is not  sufficient to let me easily translate that into quantum mechanical equations or relativistic  equations. 

But I have faith that what I believe about that is translatable into sharper mathematical language  and that it will be substantiated, but there’s a lot of mystical faith in science and what I think. In  that, I’ve studied a lot of science. 

I’ve read a lot of science of various degrees of sophistication. I’ve had a couple semesters of  quantum physics. At one time, I used to know how to use eigen values, but I have since forgotten  all of that, and I’ve read kind of physics that is made easier for less mathematically trained  people. 

Via this big mass of scientific knowledge and semi-knowledge, I have faith that what I think will  comport with hardcore science. Even though I am more ignorant scientifically than people who  do science, there’s faith in science that everybody does, even super highly trained scientists. 

Hawking has thoughts about what’s beautiful in physics. I’m sure it informs him in his judgment  in how the world works.

There’s one caveat about the costs and benefits of non-empirical, spiritual and superstitious  thought, which is the costs and benefits.  

We’ve been talking about cognitive thrift, which is the costs and benefits of thought itself for an  organism, where the costs and benefits for religious or faith-based thought are not relating to the  costs and benefits of thought itself. They are to the costs and benefits to the organism and  society. It is a different kind of cost-benefit thing than the cost-benefit of thinking. 

It is a different economy. A more – cognitive thrift is a little bit more at the expense of having a  brain; whereas, it’s a more straightforward, the costs and benefits, of faith, say, rather than lack  of faith, which is more easily understood under a more well-established economic framework.  It’s not as new a framework as the costs of cognition.  

We’re talking about two different topics, even though we’re throwing them in the same little  book. 

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